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Re: The VERY old cut/uncut thing.

Written by Ralesk at 28 Apr 2004 13:32:13:

As an answer to: The VERY old cut/uncut thing. written by David R at 28 Apr 2004 06:57:48:

>It is great to have a forum like this.

Welcome.

>I am perplexed about the anticirc stance found in so many subscribers.

Why? Excuse me, but not circumcised is the normal state to be, according to nature — and Healthcare will usually try to save what can be saved, except perhaps with this one issue nowadays.

>So many men here would be better off with a circumcision rather than puttin up with all the rigamaroll they go through deling with errant foreskins!

First of all, most of them wouldn’t have “errant foreskins” had their parents taught them properly. Second of all, if someone has indeed got an infection, — see my first paragraph — medicine should be curing them, not trimming them. I see a major difference between treating males and females in the West, simply because male circumcision is accepted whereas female one is not. I see females cured from their maladies and males just told they need to whack off an otherwise cureable and thereafter functional and feeling part of them.

Why these double standards, and why do people support modding the genitals so strongly?

>I know that it is a scary decision for all men to contemplate but just think of the happy and carefree 1.5 billion men who are cut and would have it no other way.

Let’s set facts straight here. Of the 1.5G people, most had not chosen it for themselves, out of fun. Many, hundreds and hundreds of millions never even “knew” their foreskins (we can include Arabs and Filipino here too, even though they get circumcised as preteens but not as infants).

Now how many are “perfectly happy and wouldn’t choose otherwise”? Those who had chosen it for themselves. Millions, but by far not 1.5G. The rest just doesn’t count on the “wouldn’t choose otherwise” because they just can’t know.

Granted, the same goes for the rest of the people left intact. They can’t know what it’s like to be circumcised and I’ll gladly agree on that. The difference is, they are the ones with genitals that are how Nature designed it and they might know what kind of feelings they wouldn’t receive anymore if they got circumcised.

>Circinfo and Circlist are good places to start to get decent information. Brian Morris' website in Australia is about as good as it gets from a purely unemtional factual vantage point.

On Brian Morris. Unemotional, the person who has kept convincing and convincing his teenage (or so) children how circumcision is the best thing since sliced bread, and then getting them circumcised once they gave in? This person could make a factual, balanced, unemotional point?

CL, the site at least, sounds sometimes quite a bit too knife happy to provide “decent information”.

>Cheers, Dave


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