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Re: Problems with foreskin, questions regarding others experiences

Written by David R at 01 May 2004 05:57:31:

As an answer to: Re: Problems with foreskin, questions regarding others experiences written by Ralesk at 01 May 2004 04:46:42:

>Please watch the extra > characters.

Why?? It's my post, not yours!


>There will be a point, yes, when it’s like that.

And your point, if there is one is...?

>>Under these circumstances, you have only surgical choices.
Sure and they are lucky. I assume you didn't see what these guys started with, so quoting a few anecdotes is not particularly helpful. I've seen people survive widespread cancer but that doesn't help in a rational discussion of treatment for that condition and so I wouldn't consider discussing them as object lessons.

>>A dorsal slit is one procedure but a very poor substitute for a well done circumcision.
>Let’s not even get into analysing the looks of a dorsal slit.

Is that sarcasm or ignorance? Either way, not a helpful comment, though by now I can hardly be surprised.


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>You’re doing something way too hard if you end up with serious cracks in the foreskin. Scar tissue too can be softened (with steroids) and stretched/made grow (as shown in the development of the RIC children, or the progress of foreskin restorers).

There is no such thing as foreskin restoration. That is a euphemism for a lot of frilly tugging and has never created a foreskin. Amazing!
To dismiss that cracking and tearing do occur with such a flippant remark reveals your ignorance- common word here- of the pathophysiology of phimosis and what people do in desperation to fix it; in order to avoid that horrific mutilation known as circumcision- and no, I am not smiling.

>>Again, circumcision is the appropriate cure.
>The One And Only.

You sarcasm again but as usual no common sense or even a remotely medically slanted offering.
>>And boy, to those who were circumcised as kids you must wonder at the unfortunate and oh so common problems the 4skin presents.
>Common? Phimosis exists in such high amounts only because parents have no idea how to bring up their children in this regard


Where did you learn that? If only your opinions were close to fact we might be scoring, let's think,... 5%. This though is an interesting response in that you acknowledge the problem is common and that parents don't know what to do. So much for leaving kids uncircumcised. You made an argument that we procircers habe been making forever, but as usual you have gotten the cause and effect backwards. I suggest you rethink this one. But it is all too true parents in general are never going to be helpful in caring for the uncircumcised; it simply will be the care of neglect (if you are in Europe) or overzealous penis tugging if you are in the US. Either way, the male is not given the best of care. With that I am in full agreement.

>Other maladies can be treated with medicine, just like many things regarding the human body.

I have no idea what that means. So, pass...
>>This forum is full of them and hardly a complaint from those circ'd as neonates.

>Of course they can’t have phimosis. HOW TRUE.

>They may have problems with the scar, they have a nice big scar in the first place, they may have painful erections, and they can still get LSA.

Mostly false. Where you get this stuff from apart from an impossibly unconstained imagination, one can only guess.

>By the way, we do get visitors who are circumcised, AJ has dealt with some who had questions regarding post-op care.

Why should that be a surprise? This is meant to be an open forum but mostly you wouldn't know from all the cockle-doodle-doing.


>kindly ask you to cease with these remarks.

Certainly not. They are good descriptors and don't come close to what I have been called here so far by your fellow travellers.


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