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Re: Further comments (2)

Written by RJK at 30 Apr 2002 17:47:36:

As an answer to: Further comments (2) written by Paul B. at 21 Apr 2002 00:09:04:

>>> And if you asked your ladyfriend ... proposed she needed to "keep it retracted" to "fix" that, what do you suppose she'd tell you?
>> Beyond any need for supposition, sensitivity within the interior of the vagina was studied carefully and extensively, and thoroughly discussed by Masters & Johnson in their Human Sexual Response (1966), a classic report that is still accepted 36 years after publication.
>Accepted, insofar as it revealed many insights into sexual functioning. Its accuracy is by no means guaranteed however,

No more than any other scientific effort based on careful research.

and it has many known limitations,

Most products of human effort do.

such as I detailed elsewhere in a discussion about sensitivity of the glans.
>But why mention it here? I cannot see any connection between M&J and simple observations about clitoral sensitivity?

M&J's work shows knowledge of, and abundant research experience with the clitoris and other vaginal components, is not based on speculation or supposition.

I certainly am not aware of anything in M&J which suggests that women wish their clitoris to be exposed. Can you explain?

To speculate on why a woman should want to keep her clitoris exposed (an anatomical impossibility or very, very high improbablility)is so absurd as to be beneath discussion, of use only as a diversionary ploy, which no doubt is why you brought it up.
Unless one is assuming a doctrinaire (e.g. pro- or anti-circumcision) position (which I emphatically am not), one hopefully is desirous of helping sexual partners achieve mutual satisfaction, one of Masters & Johnson's chief objectives.
>> Personal experience has taught me that my bare glans is sufficiently sensitive that I can detect the existing degree of lubrication
>Then good for you! You manage with what you have left as indeed many circumcised (partial or "complete") men do, which is commendable.

To commend my ability to 'manage with what I have left' would seem to be naive (as well as calculatedly, insultingly patronizing -- a stance all too familiar to you) because millions of men so manage, just as you yourself suggest.

But that does not impinge on the generality on which I commented.

This generality would appear to based on woeful ignorance of female anatomy.


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