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Written by Phillip at 04 May 2002 05:44:39: Re: pro-circ != (!anti-circ)
As an answer to: Re: pro-circ != (!anti-circ) written by rjk at 04 May 2002 02:14:40:
>>There are those who will find any means to portray all circumcisions as evil mutilation.
>>There are those who are opposed to infant circs as a human rights issue (let the owner of the body decide) or for issues of the infact circ requiring forceful separation of foreskin from glans etc.
>>And there are those who have undergone circumcision as adults, have realised that in some cases, this improves the penis and offer information to those who are considering this.
>>And then there are those who say that all uncuts are evil fouls smelling cancer carrying people and that everyone should be circumcised.
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>>From your post, you seem to label anyone who doesn't regard all circumcisions as evil mutilation to be pro-circ. This is not the case. There are plenty of people who are more neutral than you and who accept that there aree cases where circumcision offers benefits, and situations where the foreskin doesn't warrant circumcision.
>>It is the anti-circ activists who are the extremists, not the rest of the folks who are far more neutral. I you want to see true pro-circ folks, you go to circlist and there, you'll find people who will even criticise loose circs and state that partial circs are worse that no circ at all and that all circs should be high and tight.
>>Circumcision is not black and white. There is a LOT of grey in between and you should learn to accept that.
>>If you have not undergone circumcision as an adult, you have no way to compare what your penis would have been had your status been different. Some of us have gone through the change and can comment. And we know that many of the arguments used by the anti-circ activists are wild exagerations.
>>One example: the anti-circ folks will state that circumcision removes the inner foreskin. Look at most of the internet porn, and you'll find that the vast majority do have almost all of their innver foreskin left with the scar well below the rim of glans.
>>There does however seem to be a mainland europe trend to have adult circumcisions that do remove all fo the inner foreskin. I saw a french urology page that clearly indicated it had to be done.
>>But just because one country'd circumcision style may remove all of the inner foreksin, it doesn't mean that all circumcisions are like that. And just because most circs are still full circs doesn't mean that you can't get a partial circumcision.
>>IT IS NOT BLACK OR WHITE. IT ISN'T ANTI OR PRO. There is a lot of ground in between. Learn to live with that.
>Halfclip, you surely know by now that moderation is a commodity all-too-rare on this flatulent forum. But keep trying, you're doing the right thing!
>Cheers.Of course you would think so. With your lopsided opinions, you have lost sight of reality.