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Written by Jim at 25 May 2002 03:09:47: Try
As an answer to: Then Why Are YOU Here? written by Charles II at 24 May 2002 19:59:11:
Charles, it appears you've confused AJ with AG. It was AJ who made the comments that didn't make sense. AG was simply setting him straight.
I also take issue with your irresponsible statements about the possibilities of stretching for everyone. In the real world, anyone with diligence and proper technique will find success because it is an inevitable result of applying the laws of nature. Once achieved, retraction is not lost to those who actively use their foreskins. It is not a matter of needing continually to stretch, but simply to retract. Medical PRACTICE, not studies prove that stretching works. Read up on the practice of stretching employed by plastic surgeons in the case of burn victims. You'll find they have success. While you're at it also read up on the work of Dr Beauge in France and discover that he has had remarkable success with stretching. Don't know where you are getting your information, but it certainly isn't from any source which truly has in mind the goal of achieving retraction. It is understandable that some doctors do in fact believe stretching doesn't work because they don't employ proper technique, or they give up too soon. Afterall, there is a whole lot more money to be made at $1000-1500 a whack than there is at $50-75 per office call to teach stretching.
>... I'm not the only person that stretching has not worked for. Medical studies have shown it doesn't work for everybody.
>>Ah, but all the ones we've posted have said they ARE all successful.
>As for advice, PaulB, it's not good advice to tell people to cut open a a plastic bottle, file it, and stick it down the foreskin. That's not good advice, it's stupid advice... your advice is to stick knives down there and cut the foreskin off, and you don't think that's stupid? Sounds totally dangerous to me, and extremely bad advice.
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>You admit that you haven't been successful with one approach, then immediately dismiss a different one out of hand? Competent advice, indeed. Why don't yopu go back to fathermag and argue with your friends, Tommy, Jim, Chris and the rest? Some of them continue to say that stretching -always- works, and that circumcision is -never- necessary.
>The fact is that no one solution works for everybody. It makes sense to try the least invasive procedures first. Stretching -may- work, and it -may- prove a permanent solution. In other cases, it turns out to be a constant maintenance ritual that never gets any better, and a lot of people happen to think that simply cutting it off and getting it over is the way to go.