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Written by tom at 28 Nov 2002 04:37:20: Re: The full story.
As an answer to: The full story. written by Paul B. at 25 Nov 2002 13:01:44:
Thank you so much for that info. im starting to believe now that i dont have a premature problem and only phimosis. i have seen a urologist who has given me a steroid cream/ointment to assist with stretching the foreskin.
thank you once again.
>> as soon as it starts to feel good i ejaculate.
>Well, curious to relate, that's exactly how it works!
>It seems if you are new to this, you simply don't realise how it actually does work. And please do tell, if you only just started masturbating (which certainly explains why your foreskin isn't working properly), just what have you been doing since you entered puberty? Lots of wet dreams?
>> Maybe the fact that i cant expose my glands because of the phimosis means im not getting any pleasure untill its time for me to orgasm.
>Nope, that's pretty much how it is, particularly if you are simply masturbating rather than having sex with a young lady. Let me give it to you in graphical form - if "10" represents the feeling of orgasm, then sex goes like this:
>0 - 1 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 3 - 3 - 3 - 3 - 3 - 4 - 8 - 10 - 10 - 4 - 1 - 1
>> Im not sure.. im very confused.
>So it seems. On one point, your doctor is also very confused; one suspects he is American, circumcised himself, and doesn't have the faintest idea how sex works, but has somewhere in his reading learned the term "premature ejaculation" so that when you see him he says "Premature ejaculation - yes! Intact foreskin? Yes, that must be causing it!" It's called putting two and two together and coming up with "pi".
>> What are the other treatments available for phimosis ???
>Read the forum. If you don't find some answers (including - watch for it - some bad ones), then just read some more. I'm serious - the information is here, so just read it and come back to ask about not the basic details, but the little fine points, and to report how successful you are.
>Just to get back to that "premature ejaculation" (PE) bit and the nature of the sexual response (there are books written on it), let me say that the meaning of the term pretty much excludes masturbation, because you have the option of slowing down when you hit the "four" on my graph, and making it last longer. In fact, whether you call it PE or not, this technique, called "teasing" or various other things, is the standard one for either "curing" PE, or "enhanced" sex. It's as simple as that - when you feel it coming, you just slow right down until the feeling settles, then you can stroke a little more, and so on.
>Ejaculation is an "avalanche" phenomenon. The more excited you get, the more sensitive your penis gets, and the more easily you get excited more. So the strength of stroking that was necessary for most of the time, is far too strong as you near orgasm - if that is, you want to do anything other than have an orgasm. You should see that of course, it is designed that way, it is a protection mechanism against literally "going off half-cocked" - your body has to be stimulated in a certain way for a certain amount of time to "convince" it that this really is sex, but once "convinced", then away it goes with no further delay.
>So, why PE matters during intercourse, is that your (presumed) intent is that your partner should enjoy an orgasm as well, and if you expect that to happen through vaginal intercourse, then you need to do what feels good to your partner. This is the "Catch 22", because if you feel yourself "winding up" to orgasm before she has, then if you slow down, it slows her down even more. But that presumes that your thrusting is the essential part of her orgasm and actually, it isn't! If for example, you are inside her but not moving at all, but stroke her to orgasm, her orgasm alone becomes an almost irresistible trigger to your own.
>Anyway, in regard to your foreskin, circumcision is absurd as the arguments proposed for it in phimosis presume that the "problem" is that the glans is deprived of stimulation - presuming in turn that stimulation to the glans is the only important matter.
>The real problem with phimosis is that the foreskin is also sensitive, and phimosis prevents it from the stimulation of rolling back and forth over the glans, or inside the vagina; a source of stimulation that circumcision destroys altogether. Circumcision therefore cannot be considered an appropriate treatment if sexual enjoyment is your intent.