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Re: Attention span - A.D.D.

Written by Rood at 30 Nov 2002 06:40:11:

As an answer to: Attention span - A.D.D. written by Paul B. at 28 Nov 2002 22:35:40:

We must assume that the urologist didn't explain stretching....why should he cut HIS potential fee, after all, when he can cut something (or someone) else, instead?

And not having the "insight" to stretch or to value what has never before "moved" to reveal its secrets...all sounds painfully familiar. I have a friend who has begun to value what has been lost, too, though as far as "jim" is concerned, I half expected him to have morphed from "im.a.j.", so quick was he to grab the ring.

Be what may, patience does require insight, but it seems that embarrassment prevents parents from transmitting simple facts. So youth goes begging. If parents are too shamed to explain, urologists too venal, and doctors too busy...how does youth learn? Only by pain? And what was the Bible...study... chapter and verse?

Hmmm...and the poor little hen: she was actually sitting on one leg, trying to keep her balance and at the same time keeping the fox within sight by turning her head, as he circled. You'll have to forgive my forgetfullness. It is a story from my childhood, told by my maternal Norwegian grandfather. I'm afraid that a few details were forgotten in my rush to post. We think we are safe, looking down disdainfully while the world rushes around us, only to find its seductions too dizzying to withstand, and we fall, impatiently, into its clutches without a leg on which to stand, and we are gobbled up. Without insight, our own best interests become poor, neglected, and abused orphans.

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It reminds me of the story of the fox and the hen. She sits on top of a pole while he runs in circles around her until, dizzy, she falls.
>An excellent analogy, though some people might find it hard to follow, as in this case, the "running" is done by the potential victim instead.
>> As you have been told, his purpose, his job, his living...all come from cutting you. He has his knives and forks ready, and he wants you on his table.
>And a good continuation of the fox/ hen theme. We must in this case give the urologist some credit however, with particular reference to the other fellow, "jim" who has answered you here. Some people simply do not have the patience, nor the insight to understand how important their foreskin is to them. Perhaps they will eventually realise, yes, too late, but perhaps that is the only way they can ever learn anything - by making the mistakes and paying the penalty (this in a fascinating but oblique way, links into a Bible study I attended just last evening!).
>From the urologist's point of view, people - as he sees them - tend to want "results", if they have a tight foreskin, they want it "fixed". Now you and I have a far deeper understanding - we know the problem is not the foreskin which doesn't move properly, but the yearning for a quick "fix", so we tend to concentrate on that problem. But as "jim" and "AJ" show us, this is not their agenda, and they can stick quite doggedly to their original or chosen agenda. To them, the urologist is a saviour - he provides the "fix" and their problem is "fixed", they can forget about it (well of course, as you see, that isn't quite true, if there is considerable guilt associated, they may not forget abut it, but they can convert it).
>So what he's saying is that two months is about the maximum span of the average Joe's patience - most people cannot apply themselves to a task for longer than half of this, certainly not without supervision, so this allows time for both failure and frustration to fully evolve.
>Now we are of course, of a different ilk. We see it that you do something (stretching) for two months (actually, one month or two weeks might be better), and see what result you get. If the result is zero, you re-appraise what is being done and design something more effective, while if the result is good, you go for another similar period and repeat the appraisal. This presumes that you have a value system in which the result is worth the effort.
>It is all about attention span.
>And of course, we may well question whether the urologist actually explained stretching in any sufficient detail and planning, or not.


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