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Written by Paul B. at 03 Dec 2002 12:05:45: By no means.
As an answer to: Re: If you must written by humblepie at 03 Dec 2002 00:45:22:
> Also, i should say that my phimosis means the hole is prettty small, about the diameter of my forefinger. it really is small.
I have to side with Rood here - if the hole will admit your forefinger, it's really quite huge by comparison with some! It just isn't big enough.
> is this a lost cause?
No, only if you were to lose the plot. What we would consider a small hole, is one that is only large enough to let the urine come out which would be perhaps the thickness of a pencil or even less.
You must remember this - how big was it (the opening) when you were born, eh? A lot smaller again - so what did it do? It grew of course. The problem is that it did not grow enough, but as a general rule, "holes" in the body grow to accommodate what fits inside them. There are two things that "fit" in the foreskin opening - the urine stream, which must fit, and the glans (penis head) which should fit but - sometimes you need to make it fit - from an early age.
Incidentally, speaking of the urine stream, consider the hole in the end of the glans (the urinary meatus). Say that for some reason (the commonest in a child, is having being circumcised, so that it is exposed to dirty nappies, becomes injured and scars), it is too tight. Now just what would the doctors do? Would they "solve" the problem by cutting off the penis, because then it could never get tight again? Of course, not, they simply stretch it to the right size (actually, they over-stretch it to make thoroughly sure), albeit by doing it quite suddenly and since this is painful, using an anaesthetic of some sort.
Of course, they could stretch it very slowly, daily, and it works (better than the sudden stretching) but is rather tedious because you have to teach the person to do it, teach them (or parents) to sterilise the instruments (quite easy actually), have the lubricant available and so on. So it's not so commonly used, but some people (mostly adults) do do this, on advice from doctors.
Anyway, you are starting from a good point. If you can get one forefinger in, you are pretty close to getting two little fingers in, at which point you can stretch by pulling them apart. This is probably the most direct method, does not require an erection (better without in fact - just for this exercise), and can be held on stretch for minutes fairly easily.
> i was also wondering, would anything bad happen if i put too much on or if it got all over the glans by accident?
Unlikely, and none at all if it should happen but occasionally, but my advice is as you would have read, to apply it in such a way, and in so small quantity, that this simply will not happen.
As to the strength of the ointment - why not get the strongest available - you need a mere smear. And the success rate - is limited only by your persistence - it is impossible to quote since (and this is quite common amongst medical treatments for fixable and/ or self-limited conditions) those who succeed often fail to come back and report, whilst those who fail (that is, their patience fails them), likewise go off and have surgery.
> yknow someone has to be cautious if its about ones penis.
Which is what makes many of us so concerned about suggestions about seeing doctors whose experience on this point is limited for various reasons, not the least of which is that so few men (and similarly, women) will actually disclose such problems as to permit them the experience. They then, pressed for a ready solution, frequently "fall back" to the only procedure they know. But as much as you are cautious about your own penis, the very last thing you could consider it the complete amputation of a substantial and important part.
And there's the point - unless you consider the foreskin important, you most surely devalue the whole.
>thanks, and sorry for so many silly replies.
Just to "head off" a few suggestions from the "parent gallery", if whatever you do to stretch happens to lengthen the foreskin, so much the better. Only if you adopt their mind-set that the foreskin is undesireable, does this become a concern. Once you get it to work however, it becomes your welcome friend in all sexual exploits - as you will soon find.
Indeed, the threat of scarring from "minute tears" as a result of stretching, is indeed a mythical invention as the page name so ironically declares. It helps if you understand the bizarre - well, we think it is a fetish - intent embodied in the site, whose hosts named themselves after a celebration of Old Testament ritual which (ritual) they it seems, worship!