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Written by Aussie girl at 04 Feb 2003 21:36:54: Re: Perhaps Unjustified.
As an answer to: Perhaps Unjustified. written by Paul B. at 03 Feb 2003 21:23:59:
>> It was Phillip who said that AJ sends viruses, and I asked him if he got one.
>And his answer was?Well AJ came in and said he didn't even have Phillip's address, and said he couldn't have sent Phillip a virus.
>> Paul, your last sentence totally stumps me. It's absolutely impossible for me and Jim to be friends with AJ when he discredits us at every opportunity.
>And obviously you can't. I was arguing along the lines that you undoubtedly do have some (other) friends who have similar problems, but as long as those problems (behaviour) do not manifest in a way that hurts you, the friendship, though superficial, can be maintained.It's actually impossible to have a friendship with anyone with a personality disorder. I've known several people with them, and it isn't possible to hold a conversation with them because their thought processes are short circuited, they can't comprehend what we're saying, they say the weirdest things, won't let anyone else have their own opinion, and they believe they are okay and it's everyone else who has the serious problems. The worst of those with personality disorders was the ex boyfriend who was also violent and abusive. When someone said anything he didn't agree with, he set out to hurt them. He admitted to me that he poured petrol on a neighbour's much loved gardens, threw rocks that smashed windows, and poured boiling water over 2 different neighbour's dogs when they came into his yard. They are only the few he admitted to me. He would constantly think of ways to hurt people who didn't agree with him, and fly into rages when they dared to have a different opinion. People like him simply don't have friends.
>I was also arguing that to some degree, albeit you will find this particularly arguable, he is less culpable for the fact that he has no insight - he cannot understand why his behaviour is wrong. It's a bit like the pet venomous snake - sort of!
Yes it's exactly like the pet venemous snake. They'll strike the person who gets too close, even when that person is trying to look after them.
>> Have you actually looked at what he's written about us in his latest geocities site? That is the work of a very twisted and dangerous person who will stop at nothing to hurt others any way he can.
>Yes, I have seen it, and it is sad indeed. On the other hand, when read by an intelligent person, it is actually very supportive to our general cause.
>That's kind of what I was arguing - there is sometimes, some paradoxical good, in apparent evil (interestingly, a recurrent theme within the Bible)! At least by faithfully quoting things, the sense of what they originally meant, speaks for itself. So perhaps, despite the intent (and ironically, he can't see that he is mocking not you and Jim, but himself), it's not as bad as you think.Well that's exactly what I said to him in http://f19.parsimony.net/forum33578/messages/6873.htm
and that's why I haven't complained to geocities about him because he is indeed helping us and can't even see it. What I was upset about was the fact that he's actually trying very hard to hurt me and Jim for no reason.
- Perhaps, perhaps ... Paul B. 2/05/2003 13:23 (4)
- Re: Perhaps, perhaps ... Aussie girl 2/08/2003 19:37 (0)
- Re: Perhaps, perhaps ... Ralesk 2/05/2003 14:06 (2)
- Hisssst! Paul B. 2/05/2003 21:16 (1)
- Re: Hisssst! Ralesk 2/05/2003 22:33 (0)