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Re: Missed it entirely.

Written by Ivan at 13 Mar 2003 20:40:58:

As an answer to: Re: Missed it entirely. written by Jim at 13 Mar 2003 05:56:16:

>Ivan, all of this "scientic" bullshit means absolutely nothing. We have had results which prove him wrong anyway, so his argument holds no water.

I wasn't trying to be scientific, just to point out that factual statements can actually be determined to be wrong. Saying that the Earth is flat, for instance, and insisting that you have a right to your opinion, does not change the proposition from being a statement of fact that has been proven wrong for over 2600 years. Whether the retraction provided by the frenulum is important on the other hand is not a statement of fact but of one's values. I like my glans covered most of the time, so I value the automatic retraction. Neither Harmen nor I are 'wrong' on this, as it is an assessment of personal preference.

And I hope you know from my previous posts that I agree that the stretching procedures you and Paul and several others advise are effective, if not in every single case, then in such an overwhelming number, that it is ridiculous to advise anything else (at least until a truly diligent effort has been made - and frankly, even then, better to have a nonretractable foreskin than no foreskin at all).


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