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Re: Amen!

Written by Ivan at 11 Apr 2003 00:19:52:

As an answer to: Re: Amen! written by chImp at 11 Apr 2003 00:01:15:

>>Well spoken. Ivan, you command my greatest respect.
>But certainly not mine.

To paraphrase my own response to another example of your idiocy, "I cannot tell you how much it pleases me that you feel this way about [me]."

> It shows how primitive your (American) debating techniques are if you (Americans) use the term 'God' in order to score cheap points.

The only point I was addressing is that Creationism is inconsistent with Christianity. I was not 'using God' to score points, but it's pretty hard to have a discussion of Christianity and Creationism without reference to God.

>Typical examples of this (not from here, but in general):
>"God is with us"
>"God knows that I'm right"
>"Those who oppose this, are against humanity and God".

And how are these examples relevant here?

>Other cheap debating "tricks", this time involving Devil in one form or another:
>"It is because of people like you hundreds of thousands of jews were murdered"
>"I think this is a very racist remark. "

This is even more irrelevant than your other examples - it appears you are frustrated at hearing people say these things to you.

>It is with logic like this the Bush administration "justifies" attack on another country.
>Now, somebody, please tell me I'm wrong.

Okay, you're wrong. The Bush administration never used logic remotely like this to justify the extension of the war against world terrorism to the territory of Iraq. The primary argument has consistently been that the Ba'athist regime harbors and sponsors terrorist organizations and was developing various weapons of mass destruction for use against the USA and its friends and allies (and if he was not continuing to pursue these, he could have avoided invasion by giving the inspectors the documentation to show what had happened to what he was known to have had and the opportunity to confirm it). Hussein was known to have stated many times over the past dozen years that the biggest regret he had was that he did not wait the few years it would have taken to have nuclear weapons before invading Kuwait.


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