[ ARC forum 2 ]
Written by Rood at 28 Apr 2003 04:28:17: It's not logical
As an answer to: Re: A question for AJ written by AJ at 25 Apr 2003 22:16:41:
>Quite simply my regular GP was a buffoon. When I first visited at 15 I didn't know any better to get a second opinon - plus it was just too embarrassing. When I went back at 24 or 25, while his response was much of the same...
>I feel it is the right thing to do when I suggest to people to consult their doctor first. I also feel it is the right thing to do by suggesting to kids that they speak to their parents too. Unlike certain people here who try and take the parents out of the decision making progress.
>Ivan, Ralesk, and pretty much all the anti-circ people of this forum say "AJ parrots" about seeing a doctor. I do. So what? Everyone here "parrots" their views and what they think is the right thing to do. However, when I go to sleep at night I have no trouble with the idea that I have advised people to speak to their doctor and kids to speak to their parents about the problems, as opposed to listen to Jim and co.Dear AJ, when it comes to the intact penis, almost EVERY doctor is a buffoon. That's why sites such as Parsimony, exist. That's why Jim, Paul, YOU, me, and all the rest spend hours trying to help people through perceived problems the solving of which the medical establishment has proven incompetent.
Almost every parent has proven to be a failure, too. If they can be excused for not knowing detailed anatomy and function of the foreskin, which have only recently been researched, they can be condemned for creating conditions whereby their own children are too embarrassed to speak to them openly about personal problems.
Had they, parents and doctors, been fulfilling their responsibilities, none of us would be here. There would be no need. They would both have taught their children how and when to retract. So for you to send troubled young men to the very people who have failed them, and us, seems calculated to condemn all to circumcision, as that's the only, the ONLY, solution ignorant parents and buffoonish doctors know.
In our own lives, we have both experienced all of these failures: by our parents, by our General Practitioners, by the "specialists" who led us to circumcision, and by ourselves for not sensing that the process of stretching could be managed to a successful conclusion. Why would either of us wish for others to experience our failures? It's not logical.