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Dearest chImp,

Written by Ralesk at 05 Jul 2003 01:41:39:

As an answer to: Shut the fuck up, you silly faggot written by chImp at 04 Jul 2003 23:38:42:

>Freedom of speech is something that concerns ALL people without exception. It is a topic that should be rightfully brought up on EVERY SINGLE FORUM in Europe.

What is your precious problem here? I never told you to shut the hell up about it, I told you to find an /appropriate/ forum and give us a link to it. Those who really are concerned about it (imho Berlusconi had better com back towards the centre from his far-right), can go there and discuss it. There is a line where freedom of speech -- which I do appreciate -- becomes open abuse, and I think you have stepped over that line. I'd like to ask you to stop abusing this forum's topic and in case you wish to discuss politics with us, please go on, make another free forum (on parsimony or on that network57 or what it is) and post a link here. People will go there if/when interested.

>The existence of free Internet is at stake.

Not even Dubya Administration can risk the freedom in the Internet, let alone some p#ssies in the EU. Get real. You cannot control the vast content here.

> Ralesk, your desires to sweep this topis under the rug is disturbing, particularly when we remember that you are an activist yourself - you are a part of the Students Against Genital Mutilation, whatever the hell that is.

I'm not sweeping the issue under a rug, chUmp, I'm sweeping it to another forum where it is not a disturbance to those not interested. There is a difference.

>I'm not looking for answers. My mind is 100% clear on the issue of freedom of speech - it is a vital part of a democratic society, and people who try to infringe it without any clear reason are CRIMINALS. Not against any law (they ARE the law), but against the Democracy itself.

Thank you. In that case, don't tell me again to shut the fuck up, okay, hetero-boy?

>I often tried to start a debate in order to find out what I really mean about the subject, like the case is with Desbergs' alternative theory about AIDS. This is not that case.

That was far nearer to topic than this was. Ivan even replied to you about it and then you never discussed it with him. Interested much?

>My demkocratic rights are at stake, and my mission is to alert other people about this great threat against Democracy. I'm perfectly willing to debate the issue. Bring forth the arguments, I will smash them.

I'm not up to date with whatever issue you want to discuss, but I do not wish to become up to date about it on /this particular forum/. If you are really concerned, you could also write an e-mail to your favourite [local] politician. You might even get a reply that's not just a mass-producted auto-answer.

>There is no valid reason to ban people from questioning the Holocaust.

There is not much to question the Holocaust. It happened. There is, however, also no place to abuse the past for those who have never been directly affected by it. I could care less about people's skin colour, faith or nationality, until they use any of this against me for nothing that I personally did to them, personally. Hope my point can be seen.

Cheers,




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