Hi, thanks for the reply, yes I agree with you, this is a taboo that needs to be broken. Kids should learn about this kind of thing in school, perhaps in their sex ed. classes.
Everything that I've seen on this has suggested that touching it to harden it up is the only way, my problem with this is that after months of doing this (and not to mention the pain), I have gotten nowhere with this.
I cannot use a condom, if anything it makes the pain worse, possibly being a synthetic material and not a natural lubricant I guess.
Other things I have read have said that the glans isn't supposed to be hardened, it should be moist all the time under the foreskin.
Doctors have said that the problem could lie in the glans, ie; with the nerves, as opposed to the external side of it, since the creams do nothing.
The methods you have suggested do seem like an old wives tale, but I guess I can try the nescafe bath, I have nothing to lose there..
As for the urine, surely that might cause other sorts of medical problems? infections etc.
And trust me, if I do ever find a cure, I will be doing everything I can to make sure it's in all the medical textbooks, and posted everywhere on the internet!
DS.
>Hello DS,
>Well there are a few things Id like to say.
>Firstly, if you have had a life long phimosis - till age 29 - then this has surely influenced your sexuality, and please give me a description of your troubles. I am firmly of the opinion that such problems need to be sorted out before puberty and the health services need to be made aware of this need. Any back up for this opinion, based on individual mens experiences, would be welcome. It seems in this area men have been just self concerned and forget that the next generation will have the same problems ... Ten years ago and every previous generation would not have had the stretching option, this has only been generated and supported by internet, even 10 yrs. ago this option was not available. Phimosis is a taboo which only internet has challenged.
>Then, Im not suprised the docs cant help you with this hypersensitive glans. In all my years I have never heard of a cure apart from just handling the glans until it gets hardened to the torture and the hyper-sensitivity goes away.
>Thank God you werent given a full circumcision and now must always have a fully exposed galns, ... although some would maintain that this torture is the best way to cure it, others say their glans just always retains the over sensitivity.
>I want to repost you a longish letter I wrote on this subject, I hope you will read it, realise the relevance of what Im suggesting - experiment and then give me feedback.
>In addition Id like to ask if you can use a condom? and wouldnt a condom help to reduce the sensitivity?
>Please dont think Im just finishing off your question quickly. I am very interested in any response to this following letter ... But the ONLY cure apart from manhandling your glans (torture) can only be found by experimenting. I would suggest you choose one method and stick at it for a week or two to see if it works ... then take a 2 day break and then try another ingredient ... dont mix your ingredients otherwise you wont know what caused it if there is an allergic reaction, and with such a sensitive glans there might well be some allergic reaction ...
>You are actually the ideal guinea pig for my little experiments ... so, hope you enjoy reading, and remember please: the feedback could be important.
>thanks - cheers and good luck
>Robin
>Written by Robin at 15 Feb 2006 20:30:15:
>ARC research project no.1
>Hi Nick and anyone with a hypersensitive glans
>>"In my experience the sensitivity is not even
>suppressed by the anaesthetic gel that they gave
>me post-op. I think you just have to deal with it
>until it has been exposed for some time."
>The hypersensitive glans is a similar question to
>"how to dissolve epithelial adhesions?" in that it
>asks about keratinisation or how to harden up the glans.
>I always hoped that someone with a hypersensitive glans
>would give me a clue about how to release the epithelium.
>from male-initiation.net/library/passages/hyper-sensitivity.html
>>"Is there any way to speed this up? (ie. the
>process of hardening up the glans)"
>interesting question, if you wanted a quick
>temporary method try an aneasthetic cream, they
>make it numb, ... as a permanent method, ?
>*thinks* you need a cock bath .. :-) ... (Nescafe
>jar, full of warm water insert cock and hang
>loose for ten minutes ... we need a secret
>ingredient, there must be something, but I have no
>idea what - how does one speed up keratinisation
>i.e. hardening up the glans, I believe that the
>most sensible may be to bathe your glans in your
>own fresh urine,... for further stimulating
>discussions on the subject I would suggest you
>check out and write to us on the Forum
>good luck,... if you find the secret ingredient
>please tell me
>--------------
>I discuss possible secret ingredients and experimental methods of keratinisation on www.male-initiation.net/dissolve.html
>I bet something here would work – please experiment carefully and intelligently - I post the entire page here -
>happy reading
>Robin
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>THE SEARCH FOR A NATURAL SOLVENT (for Epithelial Adhesions)
>Øster: "Separation results from keratinization of the cells under the influence of androgen" ... Campbell: "During the first weeks this union is usually so feeble that it can be easily broken up."
>I am more than a little concerned for infants in families and countries, where there is simply not the time to give every care and attention to all the pestering kids, as well as looking after the local tread mill. I believe these infants need an easy safe simple modern method of quickly dissolving the epithelial bond between the inner foreskin and the glans.
>As far as I am aware there has been no medical research into the subject of dissolving the adhesions with a simple releasing agent or solvent.
>I have no means to explore or discover in this field, and must wait until a doctor, research student, or experimental Mum or Dad can help me.
>I believe there must be a simple solvent: olive oil, a camomile solution, or some other natural substance. Could urine contain a natural releasing agent? Alternatively maybe saliva contains enzymes which would be effective.
>Øster says "Separation results from keratinization of the cells under the influence of androgen" (quoting : Burrows, H. (1944) . The union and separation of living tissues as influenced by cellular differentiation. Yale J. Bil. Med., 17,397,)
>If I ask a few possibly stupid questions, ... Which enzymes could speed up keratinization? Could androgen be administered directly? I realise keratine has nothing to do with carrots but if it needs enzymes then maybe a bit of carrot juice would be the best thing...?
>Someone mentioned that normal black tea contains keratine ...
>________________
>Campbell's Urology. is the urologists Bible, it is an encyclopedic work in 3 volumes, .. the second edition was in 1963 the seventh was in 1998. Campbell wrote the following in the first second and third edition and presumably died before the fourth edition ... when they edited out his comments.
>"During the first weeks this union is usually so feeble that it can be easily broken up. Sometimes these embryonic epithelial adhesions fail to separate ...."
>Does this indicate that actually Im thinking far too late, and that the easiest time to release adhesions is in the first weeks after birth? ... or that if the "enzyme solvent" was applied straight after birth, then would this work easiest simplest and safest ... ??
>Today's medical understanding is that most boys have released their epithelial adhesions by the age of three. If this is not the case, recent medical research suggests it may help to describe the possibility of foreskin retraction to boys of four and administer steroids.
>While early education seems appropriate, the experimental use of chemicals may be unacceptable to many parents. Also these steroids are aimed at stretching the infants primary phimotic ring, which is proven to stretch naturally.
>Perhaps though in asking how to release the adhesions I have been aking the wrong question, : --- Betamethasone is used to help stretch the phimotic ring but very interesting in the medical studies is that no epithelial adhesions were recorded, this leads me to wonder if steroids could "heat up" and dissolve the epithelial adhesions - or is it that the foreskin complex consists of epithelial adhesions, different forms of phimosis and the frenulum, and when any link in this chain is weakened, the complex can fall apart.
>_____________
>OTHER METHODS
>The anthropologist Bryk reports a method which could be so simple, natural and unprofitable, that we may expect modern research to omit it: "Among the inhabitants of Tahiti the boys make use of the urine caught in the pocket of the foreskin to loosen up and extend their prepuce"
>In the file on Ancient Treatment we learn that "In some Turkish families the foreskin is retracted straight away after birth, and this is done periodically, in order to prevent adhesions" (39).
>other ideas involve:
>steam in the shower, salt water, cider vinegar, .... I often wonder if some ancient tribe developed for example a tradition of rubbing the genitals with grape juice, or calfs liver, or ... something with enzymes and minerals ... and no-one can explain why they do it, ... just there`s a story about some wise old medicine man who had said they must do this .... to all new borns ...
>Then from a study on farm animals
>G. St Jean Male reproductive surgery
>Vet Clin North Am Food Anim Pract 1995 Mar;11(1):55-93 "The epithelial surfaces of the penis and prepuce are fused together at birth in bulls. At about 4 months of age, the penis and prepuce begin to separate under the influence of testosterone, and the separation should be complete by 9 to 11 months of age."
>So is testosterone the missing ingredient?
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>
>>Hi, I am a 29 years old NZ'er and finally went to see a doctor about a lifetime phimosis 6 months ago. This was cured by creams within a couple of weeks.
>>My problem now is when the glans is exposed it is too painful to touch or do anything with.
>>I have tried touching it to desensitise it for the last 6 months but it is still just the same, there has been no improvement at all.
>>I have seen a gp, a dermatologist and a urologist about this, they have all given me all sorts of different creams and pills which do absolutely nothing, none of these medical professionals seem to know what to do about it.
>>At this point in my life I have basically given up on ever having sex as the pain has been too much on the rare occasion I do get to try.
>>Can anyone out there help at all?
